<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: History of the Electric Car</title> <atom:link href="http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/</link> <description>A Car Blog for Auto Enthusiasts</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:02:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Used motorcycles</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-136124</link> <dc:creator>Used motorcycles</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 06:28:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-136124</guid> <description>Today we are in situation of energy crisis. Day by day the fuel prices are rising and we don&#039;t have a effective solution to overcome on that. If we had build more emphasis on manufacturing electric cars we do not have to see this situation. As the law of nature that &quot;Need is the mother of all invention&quot; we will overcome from this energy crisis because we need electric cars now. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we are in situation of energy crisis. Day by day the fuel prices are rising and we don&#039;t have a effective solution to overcome on that. If we had build more emphasis on manufacturing electric cars we do not have to see this situation. As the law of nature that &quot;Need is the mother of all invention&quot; we will overcome from this energy crisis because we need electric cars now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fire Emergency Light</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134731</link> <dc:creator>Fire Emergency Light</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 02:55:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-134731</guid> <description>I like your post very much as i am big fan of electric cars. I think that these are the only solutions to the fuel guzzling motors of today. Thanks for sharing that history with us... </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your post very much as i am big fan of electric cars. I think that these are the only solutions to the fuel guzzling motors of today. Thanks for sharing that history with us&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tires</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-133432</link> <dc:creator>Tires</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:56:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-133432</guid> <description>Makes me realise the elctric car has been around alot longer then most people think. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me realise the elctric car has been around alot longer then most people think.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amy</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131663</link> <dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:38:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131663</guid> <description>The chart does not give information on the mileage of the first electrics (1832-1930). However, it is interesting to note that the range of these early EV&#039;s was similar to the range of the latest models, around 100 miles &lt;span class=&quot;removed_link&quot; title=&quot;http://:http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html&quot;&gt;:http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html&lt;/span&gt; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chart does not give information on the mileage of the first electrics (1832-1930). However, it is interesting to note that the range of these early EV&#039;s was similar to the range of the latest models, around 100 miles <span class="removed_link" title="http://:<a href="http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html&#8220;>:<a href="http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html</a></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Burdick</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131653</link> <dc:creator>Chris Burdick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:24:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131653</guid> <description>Yup, that&#039;s a whole &#039;nother ball game. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that&#039;s a whole &#039;nother ball game.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zathras IX</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131652</link> <dc:creator>Zathras IX</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:12:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131652</guid> <description>Why only battery- and hybrid battery/ICE EVs? What about EVs powered by hydrogen/natural gas fuel cells? They operate more like conventional ICE vehicles and don&#039;t require any recharging, only refueling. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why only battery- and hybrid battery/ICE EVs? What about EVs powered by hydrogen/natural gas fuel cells? They operate more like conventional ICE vehicles and don&#039;t require any recharging, only refueling.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doug Korthof</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131596</link> <dc:creator>Doug Korthof</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131596</guid> <description>CORRECTION:  650 &quot;1997&quot; EV1 using defective GM-Delco Lead batteries, which were designed to fail and sabotage the Nov. 1996 &quot;launch&quot; of the doomed EV1 (GM always testified that it was just trying to prove EVs impossible and too expensive). There were 465 &quot;1999&quot; EV1 using defective GM-Ovonics NiMH (Nickel) batteries, which took it up to 160 miles on a charge.  That&#039;s why the &quot;volt-hoax&quot; seems such a step backward, and just another GM effort to sabotage EVs.In Spring, 1997, Honda came out with the NiMH HondaEV, which had over 120 miles range and reliable batteries; it was this launch, powered by a Toyota-Panasonic research effort (NiMH batteries and PM motor-controller) which forced GM to admit it had issued the &quot;1997&quot; EV1 with defective batteries; GM then began upgrading the defective GM-Delco Lead batteries with reliabel PSB EV-EC 1260 lead batteries, which gave the Lead EV1 a range up to 110 miles.So we don&#039;t need Lithium; we just need honesty on the part of the car companies.  So far, the OIL-auto complex are all crooks and liars about Electric cars and batteries.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION:  650 &#8220;1997&#8243; EV1 using defective GM-Delco Lead batteries, which were designed to fail and sabotage the Nov. 1996 &#8220;launch&#8221; of the doomed EV1 (GM always testified that it was just trying to prove EVs impossible and too expensive).<br /> There were 465 &#8220;1999&#8243; EV1 using defective GM-Ovonics NiMH (Nickel) batteries, which took it up to 160 miles on a charge.  That&#8217;s why the &#8220;volt-hoax&#8221; seems such a step backward, and just another GM effort to sabotage EVs.</p><p>In Spring, 1997, Honda came out with the NiMH HondaEV, which had over 120 miles range and reliable batteries; it was this launch, powered by a Toyota-Panasonic research effort (NiMH batteries and PM motor-controller) which forced GM to admit it had issued the &#8220;1997&#8243; EV1 with defective batteries; GM then began upgrading the defective GM-Delco Lead batteries with reliabel PSB EV-EC 1260 lead batteries, which gave the Lead EV1 a range up to 110 miles.</p><p>So we don&#8217;t need Lithium; we just need honesty on the part of the car companies.  So far, the OIL-auto complex are all crooks and liars about Electric cars and batteries.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doug Korthof</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131597</link> <dc:creator>Doug Korthof</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131597</guid> <description>The HondaEV+ is on the chart, along with the Nissan Altra. The HondaEV+ was developed originally with Lead batteries, like all successful EVs, and then upgraded when Toyota-Panasonic developed superior Nickel (NiMH) batteries; the HondaEV reliably yielded 120 miles range. However, Honda&#039;s charging algorithm was inferior, and degraded the batteries faster than they should have been worn out; moreover, Honda was using the early second-generation NiMH from PEVE, which didn&#039;t last as long as the last few made, the &quot;gen-3 plus&quot;, which were stopped and shut down by Chevron-GM, which sued Toyota (winning $30 million) for improving the NiMH batteries (!!!). Thus, GM and Chevron combined to kill the only successful battery for EVs that lasts longer than the life of the car, Nickel (NiMH); to this day, Chevron retains a stranglehold on any use of NiMH for plug-in cars, they will only permit it for hybrids with batteries too small to plug in.  That&#039;s why all auto makers are forced to use more expensive Lithium, which doesn&#039;t last as long as Nickel batteries. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The HondaEV+ is on the chart, along with the Nissan Altra.</p><p>The HondaEV+ was developed originally with Lead batteries, like all successful EVs, and then upgraded when Toyota-Panasonic developed superior Nickel (NiMH) batteries; the HondaEV reliably yielded 120 miles range.</p><p>However, Honda&#039;s charging algorithm was inferior, and degraded the batteries faster than they should have been worn out; moreover, Honda was using the early second-generation NiMH from PEVE, which didn&#039;t last as long as the last few made, the &quot;gen-3 plus&quot;, which were stopped and shut down by Chevron-GM, which sued Toyota (winning $30 million) for improving the NiMH batteries (!!!).</p><p>Thus, GM and Chevron combined to kill the only successful battery for EVs that lasts longer than the life of the car, Nickel (NiMH); to this day, Chevron retains a stranglehold on any use of NiMH for plug-in cars, they will only permit it for hybrids with batteries too small to plug in.  That&#039;s why all auto makers are forced to use more expensive Lithium, which doesn&#039;t last as long as Nickel batteries.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nowonder</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131578</link> <dc:creator>nowonder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131578</guid> <description>The chart does not give information on the mileage of the first electrics (1832-1930). However, it is interesting to note that the range of these early EV&#039;s was similar to the range of the latest models, around 100 miles:http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chart does not give information on the mileage of the first electrics (1832-1930). However, it is interesting to note that the range of these early EV&#8217;s was similar to the range of the latest models, around 100 miles:</p><p><a href="http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikedudical</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131576</link> <dc:creator>mikedudical</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 09:12:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131576</guid> <description>All this hype about electric cars is great but until the Saudi&#039;s stop pouring oil into Washington DC is&#039;s literally a pipe dream.  DC just pumped billions into cash-4-clunkers amidst the largest inventory of used and repossessed vehicles in history (i.e. &lt;span class=&quot;removed_link&quot; title=&quot;http://repofinder.com)&quot;&gt;http://repofinder.com)&lt;/span&gt;.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I like the the electric idea but it&#039;s all politics. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this hype about electric cars is great but until the Saudi&#039;s stop pouring oil into Washington DC is&#039;s literally a pipe dream.  DC just pumped billions into cash-4-clunkers amidst the largest inventory of used and repossessed vehicles in history (i.e. <span class="removed_link" title="http://repofinder.com)"><a href="http://repofinder.com" rel="nofollow">http://repofinder.com</a>)</span>.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I like the the electric idea but it&#039;s all politics.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Burdick</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131571</link> <dc:creator>Chris Burdick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 00:37:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131571</guid> <description>Yup, there&#039;s tons of &#039;em. That&#039;s precisely why not ALL of them were included. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, there&#039;s tons of &#039;em. That&#039;s precisely why not ALL of them were included.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Burdick</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131570</link> <dc:creator>Chris Burdick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 00:36:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131570</guid> <description>Should it have been mentioned? Yeah, probably, but omitting an example doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s inaccurate, just not completely exhaustive. There&#039;s only so much space we had to work with. In case you didn&#039;t notice, there&#039;s a helluva lot of information on that graphic. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should it have been mentioned? Yeah, probably, but omitting an example doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s inaccurate, just not completely exhaustive. There&#039;s only so much space we had to work with. In case you didn&#039;t notice, there&#039;s a helluva lot of information on that graphic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: visitor</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131567</link> <dc:creator>visitor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:31:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131567</guid> <description>What about Honda RAV4-EV from 1997? Mercedes Electrique frm 1905? Hideous G-Wiz? There are even more historic EV&#039;s. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Honda RAV4-EV from 1997? Mercedes Electrique frm 1905? Hideous G-Wiz? There are even more historic EV&#039;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rammstein</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131565</link> <dc:creator>Rammstein</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131565</guid> <description>From a historical point of view the map and time line are completely useless and even emberrassing ! The &quot;La Jamais Contente&quot; (Never satisfied) is not even mentioned. While this electrically powered vehicle, sprawn from the mind of the Belgian Camille Jenatzy,  was the first car to break the magic 100 kilometer speed record with a speed of 105 km/h Back in 1899 !!! So before making a map giving a timeline of important events, do your homework. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a historical point of view the map and time line are completely useless and even emberrassing !</p><p>The &quot;La Jamais Contente&quot; (Never satisfied) is not even mentioned.</p><p>While this electrically powered vehicle, sprawn from the mind of the Belgian Camille Jenatzy,  was the first car to break the magic 100 kilometer speed record with a speed of 105 km/h</p><p>Back in 1899 !!!</p><p>So before making a map giving a timeline of important events, do your homework.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alt.energy Review</title><link>http://www.automoblog.net/2010/05/25/history-of-the-electric-car/comment-page-1/#comment-131563</link> <dc:creator>alt.energy Review</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.automoblog.net/?p=7328#comment-131563</guid> <description>Nice infographic. Really shows the evolution. Makes it seem hopeful that we evolve into some great cars. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice infographic. Really shows the evolution. Makes it seem hopeful that we evolve into some great cars.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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